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Okay, I've narrowed it down to 2 racks....
I'll be getting rid of my half rack soon and getting a full cage.
Here are my 2 final choices(unless you know of something better around the same price...lol)
Deltech DF820 w/200lb lat attachment $765 shipped
Powertec rack with lat attachment but no weights(uses plates) $699 shipped
I'm leaning towards dishing out the extra $66 for the Deltech since it comes with a weight stack. Also, it has a straight chin bar, and my buddy is a welder and said he'll modify a close grip row handle to fit on it so I can do close grip chins. The Powertec comes with dip bars and the Deltech doesn't. I don't have any way to do dips at the moment. :(
Thoughts?
Well, a 200lb stack isn't that much, and you probably can't add more. The holes look like they go down closer to the ground on the Deltech, which would be useful for rack pulls.
If you have two bars, you can put them across the safety pins and do dips on those.
I'd get the powertec, personally.
I haven't used either, though.
Just looking at the 2 I like that the lat attachment is deeper on the Deltec....gives you more room to move your bench around. I have seen the Powertec in person and it was pretty good for it's price range. I have not seen a Deltec in person, but that is a good price for that setup if the lat has smooth action.
That Deltech looks nice, never even heard of them. They also have one with sliding safety bars unstead of the pullout kind. The fact that its so deep with the lat attachment is nice too - no problems doing inclines on it with most benches, whereas you might have probs on the powertec depending on your bench.
Plus its shorter than the powertec, which might be a bonus for those with low ceilings such as myself.
Only real negative I see of it is that it looks like the holes are 3" apart, 2" or even 1" is better to get the safety bar lined up properly for benching.
That Deltech looks nice, never even heard of them. They also have one with sliding safety bars unstead of the pullout kind. The fact that its so deep with the lat attachment is nice too - no problems doing inclines on it with most benches, whereas you might have probs on the powertec depending on your bench.
Plus its shorter than the powertec, which might be a bonus for those with low ceilings such as myself.
Only real negative I see of it is that it looks like the holes are 3" apart, 2" or even 1" is better to get the safety bar lined up properly for benching. Anything over one inch hole spacing would be a deal breaker for me.
Anything over one inch hole spacing would be a deal breaker for me. I hear you there! Both of those have pro's & cons, of course. Remember, you can rig ANY rack with a couple of bars to do dips. ;)
Personally, I'd get one W/O the lat attach. and buy a separate unit. That being tha case, I would get the PT with the optimum hole spacing.
Personally, I'd get one W/O the lat attach. and buy a separate unit.
Yeah, aren't loaded lat towers around $400 or so?
Well, just eye ballin'em, Id go with the powertec for two reasons, it has a place to put your legs for the pulldowns, fairly useless exercise unless you can hold yourself down in some manner, unless your not that strong.
I think you got confused, the powertec would need the center section for close grip pullups, as it just has the curved or ergonomical handles for pullups, the delltech uses a solid bar. Second reason, Powertec has handles for dips, delltech does not (at least not pictured).
Off the record, I think they are both too much, why'na hell does someone need a lat machine when they plan to do pullups, dip belt $30. :D
Have fun
I hear you there! Both of those have pro's & cons, of course. Remember, you can rig ANY rack with a couple of bars to do dips. ;)
Personally, I'd get one W/O the lat attach. and buy a separate unit. That being tha case, I would get the PT with the optimum hole spacing. Yes. I have the powertec rack and a commercial grade lat pull/seated row that i picked up on craigs list.
Yes. I have the powertec rack and a commercial grade lat pull/seated row that i picked up on craigs list. I welded one up myself w/low row. It can handle a ton of weight, but it's a floor sitter an I had to make a special piece to bolt to the floor as a hold-down. Sort of custom for me. ;)
I actually machined the pulleys myself from 4" stainless bar stock and pressed in industrial sealed bearings that are rated at >1000 lb. :D
I would go with Powertec!!! You can lock your legs down on lat pull downs. Plus you can add as much weight as you want on the lat machine. The stack would only be good when doing triceps.
Powertec all the way on this one, the rack may not be that deep but if you can incline bench with a bodycraft f602 in it (which is a bigass bench) it's fine. I tried the lat attachment a few times (don't have it on my rack) and it is very smooth, but you can get a seperate lat attachment by powertec for the same price...
I own the powertec rack and love it, it is great...I am going to buy their hyper/roman chair bench as well...but DO NOT get their utility bench, the declines in it aren't deep enough (that's just my opinion, I prefer deep inclines). Go with powertec and don't look back.
Good luck
Now I'm kinda worried about my Nautilus bench working with the powertec rack, since it's not too deep. Are the powertecs designed for you to bench off the front of the rack, and squat inside?
Now I'm kinda worried about my Nautilus bench working with the powertec rack, since it's not too deep. Are the powertecs designed for you to bench off the front of the rack, and squat inside? The ideal of a rack is to do ALL movements in the rack where safety is prime. You can pretty much put the pins on the outside of ANY rack...but what's the point? Get equipment that is rack compatible...that's why I always advise not to buy sight unseen. ;)
Do you really want to pay $400 for a lat attachment?
I'd get a dip belt and spend the rest of the money on plates and a good bench.
Do you really want to pay $400 for a lat attachment?
I'd get a dip belt and spend the rest of the money on plates and a good bench. Yeah, I've got a parabody multi-gym right now for cable work, it takes up a lot of space though, was just thinking of getting rid of it and getting the lat attachment on a rack instead. Maybe I'll just get a bare cage and keep it for now.
I'll be getting rid of my half rack soon and getting a full cage.
Here are my 2 final choices(unless you know of something better around the same price...lol)
Deltech DF820 w/200lb lat attachment $765 shipped
Powertec rack with lat attachment but no weights(uses plates) $699 shipped
I'm leaning towards dishing out the extra $66 for the Deltech since it comes with a weight stack. Also, it has a straight chin bar, and my buddy is a welder and said he'll modify a close grip row handle to fit on it so I can do close grip chins. The Powertec comes with dip bars and the Deltech doesn't. I don't have any way to do dips at the moment. :(
Thoughts?
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Well, a 200lb stack isn't that much, and you probably can't add more. The holes look like they go down closer to the ground on the Deltech, which would be useful for rack pulls.
If you have two bars, you can put them across the safety pins and do dips on those.
I'd get the powertec, personally.
I haven't used either, though.
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Just looking at the 2 I like that the lat attachment is deeper on the Deltec....gives you more room to move your bench around. I have seen the Powertec in person and it was pretty good for it's price range. I have not seen a Deltec in person, but that is a good price for that setup if the lat has smooth action.
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That Deltech looks nice, never even heard of them. They also have one with sliding safety bars unstead of the pullout kind. The fact that its so deep with the lat attachment is nice too - no problems doing inclines on it with most benches, whereas you might have probs on the powertec depending on your bench.
Plus its shorter than the powertec, which might be a bonus for those with low ceilings such as myself.
Only real negative I see of it is that it looks like the holes are 3" apart, 2" or even 1" is better to get the safety bar lined up properly for benching.
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That Deltech looks nice, never even heard of them. They also have one with sliding safety bars unstead of the pullout kind. The fact that its so deep with the lat attachment is nice too - no problems doing inclines on it with most benches, whereas you might have probs on the powertec depending on your bench.
Plus its shorter than the powertec, which might be a bonus for those with low ceilings such as myself.
Only real negative I see of it is that it looks like the holes are 3" apart, 2" or even 1" is better to get the safety bar lined up properly for benching. Anything over one inch hole spacing would be a deal breaker for me.
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Anything over one inch hole spacing would be a deal breaker for me. I hear you there! Both of those have pro's & cons, of course. Remember, you can rig ANY rack with a couple of bars to do dips. ;)
Personally, I'd get one W/O the lat attach. and buy a separate unit. That being tha case, I would get the PT with the optimum hole spacing.
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Personally, I'd get one W/O the lat attach. and buy a separate unit.
Yeah, aren't loaded lat towers around $400 or so?
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Well, just eye ballin'em, Id go with the powertec for two reasons, it has a place to put your legs for the pulldowns, fairly useless exercise unless you can hold yourself down in some manner, unless your not that strong.
I think you got confused, the powertec would need the center section for close grip pullups, as it just has the curved or ergonomical handles for pullups, the delltech uses a solid bar. Second reason, Powertec has handles for dips, delltech does not (at least not pictured).
Off the record, I think they are both too much, why'na hell does someone need a lat machine when they plan to do pullups, dip belt $30. :D
Have fun
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I hear you there! Both of those have pro's & cons, of course. Remember, you can rig ANY rack with a couple of bars to do dips. ;)
Personally, I'd get one W/O the lat attach. and buy a separate unit. That being tha case, I would get the PT with the optimum hole spacing. Yes. I have the powertec rack and a commercial grade lat pull/seated row that i picked up on craigs list.
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Yes. I have the powertec rack and a commercial grade lat pull/seated row that i picked up on craigs list. I welded one up myself w/low row. It can handle a ton of weight, but it's a floor sitter an I had to make a special piece to bolt to the floor as a hold-down. Sort of custom for me. ;)
I actually machined the pulleys myself from 4" stainless bar stock and pressed in industrial sealed bearings that are rated at >1000 lb. :D
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I would go with Powertec!!! You can lock your legs down on lat pull downs. Plus you can add as much weight as you want on the lat machine. The stack would only be good when doing triceps.
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Powertec all the way on this one, the rack may not be that deep but if you can incline bench with a bodycraft f602 in it (which is a bigass bench) it's fine. I tried the lat attachment a few times (don't have it on my rack) and it is very smooth, but you can get a seperate lat attachment by powertec for the same price...
I own the powertec rack and love it, it is great...I am going to buy their hyper/roman chair bench as well...but DO NOT get their utility bench, the declines in it aren't deep enough (that's just my opinion, I prefer deep inclines). Go with powertec and don't look back.
Good luck
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Now I'm kinda worried about my Nautilus bench working with the powertec rack, since it's not too deep. Are the powertecs designed for you to bench off the front of the rack, and squat inside?
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Now I'm kinda worried about my Nautilus bench working with the powertec rack, since it's not too deep. Are the powertecs designed for you to bench off the front of the rack, and squat inside? The ideal of a rack is to do ALL movements in the rack where safety is prime. You can pretty much put the pins on the outside of ANY rack...but what's the point? Get equipment that is rack compatible...that's why I always advise not to buy sight unseen. ;)
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Do you really want to pay $400 for a lat attachment?
I'd get a dip belt and spend the rest of the money on plates and a good bench.
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Do you really want to pay $400 for a lat attachment?
I'd get a dip belt and spend the rest of the money on plates and a good bench. Yeah, I've got a parabody multi-gym right now for cable work, it takes up a lot of space though, was just thinking of getting rid of it and getting the lat attachment on a rack instead. Maybe I'll just get a bare cage and keep it for now.