Question:
Strength vs. Size
Hi all. It is my understanding that while there is a relationship between strength and size you can train differently to improve one or the other. I've done well with my quest to transform my body thus far. I've done that with a relatively good diet (and supplements) and regular weight lifting (3-4 days per week) and cardio (1-2 days per week).
My understanding is this, high weight 3-5 reps 2-3 sets will result in the best strength gains while moderate-high weight 8-10 reps 2-3 sets will result in the best size gains.
Is this accurate?
Low reps=strength
So I understand ;-)
Here is a good article by Chad Waterbury that may help you: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=651322
Understand that there are other theories out there, but this should give you some direction.
Hi all. It is my understanding that while there is a relationship between strength and size you can train differently to improve one or the other. I've done well with my quest to transform my body thus far. I've done that with a relatively good diet (and supplements) and regular weight lifting (3-4 days per week) and cardio (1-2 days per week).
My understanding is this, high weight 3-5 reps 2-3 sets will result in the best strength gains while moderate-high weight 8-10 reps 2-3 sets will result in the best size gains.
Is this accurate? Everyone is different - but i never do more than 4-6 reps on anything and I big all over - IMO - strength = size. My experience until one month ago was in powerlifting not bb, but, powerlifters are some of the biggest people I have ever seen.
Good evening gents....
I'm glad I saw this thread and the link dbx noted.
I'm on a two week break (doctors mandate after my current surgery) and I think I'll change my routine a bit as I've stayed at the 4-6 thing since I've started.
I'm pleased with my progress but I'm ready to makes things more interesting with a change of approach.
Thanks and have a good eve.......
Here is a good article by Chad Waterbury that may help you: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=651322
Understand that there are other theories out there, but this should give you some direction. t-nation has good stuff.
this article could be somewhat helpful, minus the big words.
but the charts/pics are very useful.
:)
t-nation has good stuff.
this article could be somewhat helpful, minus the big words.
but the charts/pics are very useful.
:) That is a good article - with principles I largely follow - volume is important - upping work capacity is important.
That is a good article - with principles I largely follow - volume is important - upping work capacity is important. oh i agree.
as stated, t-nation has good stuff... altho i'm a bit leery about biotest from supps in the past.
but they have excellent 411.
just this particular article had big words.
nice pictures.
onehawaiian dumb...... :(
Here is a good article by Chad Waterbury that may help you: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=651322
Understand that there are other theories out there, but this should give you some direction. good article
Everyone is different - but i never do more than 4-6 reps on anything and I big all over - IMO - strength = size. My experience until one month ago was in powerlifting not bb, but, powerlifters are some of the biggest people I have ever seen. I agree, everyone is different
keeponpumpin! ;) red
Hi all....
After reading the t-nation link and the recommeded sets/reps I find I'm confused about one thing.
If am doing, say....military presses and do 8 sets of 3.
Would I do the same 8/3 for the next shoulder excersize too or does this approach fatigue the shoulders quicker?
I look forward to trying this routine but I think this will be a real workout change for me especially if I'm doing three different exercizes.
Maybe one should only do 2 exercizes per m/group with this approach?
I hope this is making sense to someone.
Many thank yous....
I really like this article for what we are talking about here:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1474118
I really think rep range can be a relative thing when it involves strength. Take for instance squat: if someone squats 405lb for one or two reps is that relatively strong? What about someone who can squat that weight for 15-20 reps? By strict definition he is training for endurance not strength but I would argue that 405 for 20 reps is one strong squat.
The Waterbury article wasn't bad and I will say that his 10 sets of 3 in the squat did wonders for my leg size. That being said the writers on T-nation are just like politicians, they are paid to get attention. Waterbury likes to get attention.
Hi all....
After reading the t-nation link and the recommeded sets/reps I find I'm confused about one thing.
If am doing, say....military presses and do 8 sets of 3.
Would I do the same 8/3 for the next shoulder excersize too or does this approach fatigue the shoulders quicker?
I look forward to trying this routine but I think this will be a real workout change for me especially if I'm doing three different exercizes.
Maybe one should only do 2 exercizes per m/group with this approach?
I hope this is making sense to someone.
Many thank yous.... This waterbury article explains better how he wants 8 sets of 3 done:
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....5-011-training
food equals size.
Happy Monday...first oxymoron for the day!
JRT6....
I just had a feeling I was missing something on this issue of sets/reps for this type of routine.
Many thanks for the link tip.
A great day to all.
Low reps=strength
So I understand ;-) Sq: x2; Bp: x3; Dl: x1
Hi all. It is my understanding that while there is a relationship between strength and size you can train differently to improve one or the other. I've done well with my quest to transform my body thus far. I've done that with a relatively good diet (and supplements) and regular weight lifting (3-4 days per week) and cardio (1-2 days per week).
My understanding is this, high weight 3-5 reps 2-3 sets will result in the best strength gains while moderate-high weight 8-10 reps 2-3 sets will result in the best size gains.
Is this accurate?
Answer:
Low reps=strength
So I understand ;-)
Answer:
Here is a good article by Chad Waterbury that may help you: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=651322
Understand that there are other theories out there, but this should give you some direction.
Answer:
Hi all. It is my understanding that while there is a relationship between strength and size you can train differently to improve one or the other. I've done well with my quest to transform my body thus far. I've done that with a relatively good diet (and supplements) and regular weight lifting (3-4 days per week) and cardio (1-2 days per week).
My understanding is this, high weight 3-5 reps 2-3 sets will result in the best strength gains while moderate-high weight 8-10 reps 2-3 sets will result in the best size gains.
Is this accurate? Everyone is different - but i never do more than 4-6 reps on anything and I big all over - IMO - strength = size. My experience until one month ago was in powerlifting not bb, but, powerlifters are some of the biggest people I have ever seen.
Answer:
Good evening gents....
I'm glad I saw this thread and the link dbx noted.
I'm on a two week break (doctors mandate after my current surgery) and I think I'll change my routine a bit as I've stayed at the 4-6 thing since I've started.
I'm pleased with my progress but I'm ready to makes things more interesting with a change of approach.
Thanks and have a good eve.......
Answer:
Here is a good article by Chad Waterbury that may help you: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=651322
Understand that there are other theories out there, but this should give you some direction. t-nation has good stuff.
this article could be somewhat helpful, minus the big words.
but the charts/pics are very useful.
:)
Answer:
t-nation has good stuff.
this article could be somewhat helpful, minus the big words.
but the charts/pics are very useful.
:) That is a good article - with principles I largely follow - volume is important - upping work capacity is important.
Answer:
That is a good article - with principles I largely follow - volume is important - upping work capacity is important. oh i agree.
as stated, t-nation has good stuff... altho i'm a bit leery about biotest from supps in the past.
but they have excellent 411.
just this particular article had big words.
nice pictures.
onehawaiian dumb...... :(
Answer:
Here is a good article by Chad Waterbury that may help you: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=651322
Understand that there are other theories out there, but this should give you some direction. good article
Everyone is different - but i never do more than 4-6 reps on anything and I big all over - IMO - strength = size. My experience until one month ago was in powerlifting not bb, but, powerlifters are some of the biggest people I have ever seen. I agree, everyone is different
keeponpumpin! ;) red
Answer:
Hi all....
After reading the t-nation link and the recommeded sets/reps I find I'm confused about one thing.
If am doing, say....military presses and do 8 sets of 3.
Would I do the same 8/3 for the next shoulder excersize too or does this approach fatigue the shoulders quicker?
I look forward to trying this routine but I think this will be a real workout change for me especially if I'm doing three different exercizes.
Maybe one should only do 2 exercizes per m/group with this approach?
I hope this is making sense to someone.
Many thank yous....
Answer:
I really like this article for what we are talking about here:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1474118
I really think rep range can be a relative thing when it involves strength. Take for instance squat: if someone squats 405lb for one or two reps is that relatively strong? What about someone who can squat that weight for 15-20 reps? By strict definition he is training for endurance not strength but I would argue that 405 for 20 reps is one strong squat.
The Waterbury article wasn't bad and I will say that his 10 sets of 3 in the squat did wonders for my leg size. That being said the writers on T-nation are just like politicians, they are paid to get attention. Waterbury likes to get attention.
Answer:
Hi all....
After reading the t-nation link and the recommeded sets/reps I find I'm confused about one thing.
If am doing, say....military presses and do 8 sets of 3.
Would I do the same 8/3 for the next shoulder excersize too or does this approach fatigue the shoulders quicker?
I look forward to trying this routine but I think this will be a real workout change for me especially if I'm doing three different exercizes.
Maybe one should only do 2 exercizes per m/group with this approach?
I hope this is making sense to someone.
Many thank yous.... This waterbury article explains better how he wants 8 sets of 3 done:
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....5-011-training
Answer:
food equals size.
Answer:
Happy Monday...first oxymoron for the day!
JRT6....
I just had a feeling I was missing something on this issue of sets/reps for this type of routine.
Many thanks for the link tip.
A great day to all.
Answer:
Low reps=strength
So I understand ;-) Sq: x2; Bp: x3; Dl: x1